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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.mrlocke.net/open-letter-to-joe-satriani-from-a-former-fan/comment-page-1#comment-2333</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the company I work for I&#039;m friends with the lawyer that deals with intellectual property issues. We&#039;re a creative company and ideas and inspiration go back and forth all the time. No one creates in a vacuum. Period. We all are actively looking for and are influenced by others, consciously and subconsciously. The whole topic is really quite interesting because it really is about judgement calls as to when someone is stealing or someone is just inspired. I know of actual cases where someone has sued us, claiming intellectual property theft, which is basically a copyright issue, and it really wasn&#039;t the case that someone stole, but that certain similarities were present although purely accidental. Because we&#039;re a big company a lot of times we just settle out of court even when we are in the right just because it&#039;s not worth it to drag the case to court to fight. And people know this and they take advantage. So it&#039;s not always the case that the big bad corporation with their corporate lawyers are just looking to squash the little guy.  

When a person creates something, they do it for one of three reasons. One, for their personal enjoyment. Two, to make money. And three, for their personal enjoyment and to make money. I don&#039;t see anything wrong with wanting to make and/or receiving money for the work that you do in creating something, even if that work is ultimately fulfilling and enjoyable. 
In my own field I&#039;ve had to be very careful to analyze everything I take in for stimulation to make sure that what I find inspiring doesn&#039;t become interpreted too closely or literally. You can take the feel of something that moves you and make it into something that&#039;s your own but you can&#039;t take the pieces/parts and just rearrange them. Again, it&#039;s not an exact science and judgement calls are made. But even if you only just take the feel of something purposely, you are not being original. Being original is something that&#039;s hard to define. When Van Gogh and others moved into that period call Impressionism, they were also just putting paint on canvas, like thousands of others before them. But it&#039;s HOW they put that paint on the canvas. They were the first, unbelievably, to do it in quite that way. I can do a reasonable facsimile of an impressionist painting today, but no one will take the least bit of note, because I wasn&#039;t the first to do it, as good as it might be. If I write a song or paint an illustration or create something out of my head that is the first to be done in quite that way, and money (as filthy as it is) is involved, and someone else comes along and takes the credit for it with something that is probably stolen hard work, a law suit might be in order.

Neal, you said: &quot;What I’m saying (whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not) is that it sucks to sue fellow musicians on the basis of copyright, especially in a cultural climate where copyright itself is growing less and less relevant to emerging generations of fans and cutting edge musicians alike. Face it — The old system of music publishing is dying, and trying to “cash in” on it by suing for royalties is just refusing to accept the inevitable.&quot;

I just don&#039;t see it. What you&#039;re saying might be true in extremely small idealistic pockets of music. I also don&#039;t think that copyright issues ever were relevant to fans. The fans just want to hear what they want to hear, and if they can get it for free and without retribution they will. The fans don&#039;t much care if the artist ever gets compensated. Napster showed that. But as long as there is money to be made and people need and like money, and if it can be demonstrated that theft has occurred, law suits will continue. Should they? In a perfect world, probably not. But I don&#039;t think we&#039;ve reached that stage quite yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the company I work for I&#8217;m friends with the lawyer that deals with intellectual property issues. We&#8217;re a creative company and ideas and inspiration go back and forth all the time. No one creates in a vacuum. Period. We all are actively looking for and are influenced by others, consciously and subconsciously. The whole topic is really quite interesting because it really is about judgement calls as to when someone is stealing or someone is just inspired. I know of actual cases where someone has sued us, claiming intellectual property theft, which is basically a copyright issue, and it really wasn&#8217;t the case that someone stole, but that certain similarities were present although purely accidental. Because we&#8217;re a big company a lot of times we just settle out of court even when we are in the right just because it&#8217;s not worth it to drag the case to court to fight. And people know this and they take advantage. So it&#8217;s not always the case that the big bad corporation with their corporate lawyers are just looking to squash the little guy.  </p>
<p>When a person creates something, they do it for one of three reasons. One, for their personal enjoyment. Two, to make money. And three, for their personal enjoyment and to make money. I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with wanting to make and/or receiving money for the work that you do in creating something, even if that work is ultimately fulfilling and enjoyable.<br />
In my own field I&#8217;ve had to be very careful to analyze everything I take in for stimulation to make sure that what I find inspiring doesn&#8217;t become interpreted too closely or literally. You can take the feel of something that moves you and make it into something that&#8217;s your own but you can&#8217;t take the pieces/parts and just rearrange them. Again, it&#8217;s not an exact science and judgement calls are made. But even if you only just take the feel of something purposely, you are not being original. Being original is something that&#8217;s hard to define. When Van Gogh and others moved into that period call Impressionism, they were also just putting paint on canvas, like thousands of others before them. But it&#8217;s HOW they put that paint on the canvas. They were the first, unbelievably, to do it in quite that way. I can do a reasonable facsimile of an impressionist painting today, but no one will take the least bit of note, because I wasn&#8217;t the first to do it, as good as it might be. If I write a song or paint an illustration or create something out of my head that is the first to be done in quite that way, and money (as filthy as it is) is involved, and someone else comes along and takes the credit for it with something that is probably stolen hard work, a law suit might be in order.</p>
<p>Neal, you said: &#8220;What I’m saying (whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not) is that it sucks to sue fellow musicians on the basis of copyright, especially in a cultural climate where copyright itself is growing less and less relevant to emerging generations of fans and cutting edge musicians alike. Face it — The old system of music publishing is dying, and trying to “cash in” on it by suing for royalties is just refusing to accept the inevitable.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t see it. What you&#8217;re saying might be true in extremely small idealistic pockets of music. I also don&#8217;t think that copyright issues ever were relevant to fans. The fans just want to hear what they want to hear, and if they can get it for free and without retribution they will. The fans don&#8217;t much care if the artist ever gets compensated. Napster showed that. But as long as there is money to be made and people need and like money, and if it can be demonstrated that theft has occurred, law suits will continue. Should they? In a perfect world, probably not. But I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ve reached that stage quite yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.mrlocke.net/open-letter-to-joe-satriani-from-a-former-fan/comment-page-1#comment-2331</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont get me wrong...I&#039;m a big fan of both. I worshipped Joe growing up and admit that he still is a major influence in my life. I will always love him for it. But Viva la Vida is a beautifully written and produced song. (As is the the rest of the Album-I sorta regard it as my musical highlight of 2008)
As a theme it carries nothing of Joe&#039;s character. The two songs evoke completely different feelings in me...
 I quite like Neils insight into the copyright evolution, but as a musician, if I wrote a song with a melody only, and somebody used 51% of it, then adds lyrics and turns it into a world wide hit. I would want some SUBTLE recognition for it sure, but mostly I would be proud!!!

But to sue? No ways...Coldplay did wonders with the melody and deserve their success!!!

Joe, I&#039;m sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont get me wrong&#8230;I&#8217;m a big fan of both. I worshipped Joe growing up and admit that he still is a major influence in my life. I will always love him for it. But Viva la Vida is a beautifully written and produced song. (As is the the rest of the Album-I sorta regard it as my musical highlight of 2008)<br />
As a theme it carries nothing of Joe&#8217;s character. The two songs evoke completely different feelings in me&#8230;<br />
 I quite like Neils insight into the copyright evolution, but as a musician, if I wrote a song with a melody only, and somebody used 51% of it, then adds lyrics and turns it into a world wide hit. I would want some SUBTLE recognition for it sure, but mostly I would be proud!!!</p>
<p>But to sue? No ways&#8230;Coldplay did wonders with the melody and deserve their success!!!</p>
<p>Joe, I&#8217;m sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Neal Locke</title>
		<link>http://www.mrlocke.net/open-letter-to-joe-satriani-from-a-former-fan/comment-page-1#comment-2261</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Locke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 03:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brian and Gregory -- you both completely miss the point.  It&#039;s not about whether or not Joe Satriani has a &quot;right&quot; to sue Coldplay.  He does.  It&#039;s not about whether or not Joe Satriani owns the copyright to his original work.  He does.  It&#039;s not even about whether or not Coldplay intentionally or unintentionally copied his song.  Because I don&#039;t really care about that.

What I&#039;m saying (whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not) is that it sucks to sue fellow musicians on the basis of copyright, especially in a cultural climate where copyright itself is growing less and less relevant to emerging generations of fans and cutting edge musicians alike.  Face it -- The old system of music publishing is dying, and trying to &quot;cash in&quot; on it by suing for royalties is just refusing to accept the inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian and Gregory &#8212; you both completely miss the point.  It&#8217;s not about whether or not Joe Satriani has a &#8220;right&#8221; to sue Coldplay.  He does.  It&#8217;s not about whether or not Joe Satriani owns the copyright to his original work.  He does.  It&#8217;s not even about whether or not Coldplay intentionally or unintentionally copied his song.  Because I don&#8217;t really care about that.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m saying (whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not) is that it sucks to sue fellow musicians on the basis of copyright, especially in a cultural climate where copyright itself is growing less and less relevant to emerging generations of fans and cutting edge musicians alike.  Face it &#8212; The old system of music publishing is dying, and trying to &#8220;cash in&#8221; on it by suing for royalties is just refusing to accept the inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
		<link>http://www.mrlocke.net/open-letter-to-joe-satriani-from-a-former-fan/comment-page-1#comment-2260</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously you like more coldplay than the real true: Coldplay steals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously you like more coldplay than the real true: Coldplay steals!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian K. Chamberlain</title>
		<link>http://www.mrlocke.net/open-letter-to-joe-satriani-from-a-former-fan/comment-page-1#comment-2259</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian K. Chamberlain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 20:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re most likely correct that ColdPlay did not steal the song from Satch, However; the song was copywritten in the USA and it does use more than 51 percent of the melody.  There for; Coldplay will pay Joe Satriani royalties for the use of his COPYWRITTEN material wether it was intentional or not.  They could just choose not to sell in the USA any longer to lessen the burden, but they have already piled a big check for Joe they just don&#039;t know it yet.  Even then International law would take hold.  I don&#039;t think they used it intentionally.  You would have to lock a kid in basement for a lifetime to get original art from anyone that wasn&#039;t the product of someone elses art, and so forth and so on goes the amazing wheel of growth.  I wouldn&#039;t be using an IPOD if inventors of the 1700&#039;s didn&#039;t electricuit themselves to death...repeatedly..lOL!   We grow from those that have lay the foundation for us to grow on.  With tech moving at the present pace  information trading hands will make this growth exponentially infest itself to oblivian.  Hang on - I&#039;m gonna PUKE...Hold my hair back...would you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re most likely correct that ColdPlay did not steal the song from Satch, However; the song was copywritten in the USA and it does use more than 51 percent of the melody.  There for; Coldplay will pay Joe Satriani royalties for the use of his COPYWRITTEN material wether it was intentional or not.  They could just choose not to sell in the USA any longer to lessen the burden, but they have already piled a big check for Joe they just don&#8217;t know it yet.  Even then International law would take hold.  I don&#8217;t think they used it intentionally.  You would have to lock a kid in basement for a lifetime to get original art from anyone that wasn&#8217;t the product of someone elses art, and so forth and so on goes the amazing wheel of growth.  I wouldn&#8217;t be using an IPOD if inventors of the 1700&#8242;s didn&#8217;t electricuit themselves to death&#8230;repeatedly..lOL!   We grow from those that have lay the foundation for us to grow on.  With tech moving at the present pace  information trading hands will make this growth exponentially infest itself to oblivian.  Hang on &#8211; I&#8217;m gonna PUKE&#8230;Hold my hair back&#8230;would you?</p>
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